Dec 16 ====== Cornips:2014 ------------ "Research by Smith et al. (2007, 2009) on the acquisition of variation in pre-school children with their primary caregivers indicates that sociolinguistic norms are evident from the earliest stages of language acquisition (2013:287). Moreover, Smith et al. (2013) show that caregivers exaggerate the use of standard variants above local ones with younger children but revert to adult-like norms in their speech once the children pass the age of initial acquisition." - I think the paper is stating that local language features are present from early acquisition but also states that the infant receives more standard input than local input during early acquisition. Can both things be true? When do local features start to develop? It would be interesting to repeat such an experiment in countries like Luxembourg and Belgium since their languages are somewhere between "a real language" and "dialect". Last year studying in the Netherlands some of Dutch professors told us, that Standard Dutch is very different from the dialects that exist in Dutch. At the same time, a twofold situation is created in teaching Dutch to students and children - what grammar should they be taught? Standard or conversational? After all, language teaching is aimed at understanding this language, immersion in the language environment, and not educational grammar. Dutch language teachers' practice has shown that even educated Dutch people make mistakes and grammatical dialect shifts. This probably leads to the question of what standard form should exist in the language. There is a very contrasting example of how many dialects were lost in the Soviet Union due to politics - teachers with a good Moscow education were distributed to different parts of the country to "work out" the knowledge they had acquired, and thus the standard Russian language was spread and dialect variations of the language were lost. At the moment, communication between two people from different parts of Russia and the former USSR countries will not present difficulties - their language will be very similar, even identical for a layman. I suppose, the situation is different for Dutch citizens nowadays. What are the differences between monolingual and bilingual children in bilingual areas? How to clearly understand the conclusions drawn from the article? What is meant by horizontal and vertical levelling? The authors claim that certain lingustic choices of the children (e.g. the extensive delay and variable use of the derminaters de and het with neuter nouns) may be due to social identity construction. At what age do children become aware of the social "weight" of their output and master? The article suggests an early acquisition of this metalinguistic knowledge. Does it happen alongside the acquisition of the feature or later on? In Table 2 where language choice patterns of participants in Heerlen are presented, there is a category of 8 out of 30 children who don’t speak the local dialect even though their immediate family does. This seems a deliberate option. What might be the cause of it (comment: This question relates to my first question. Generally my first guess would be that not using the dialect is an identificatory strategy related to language ideologies about the prestige of local varieties but does such explanation fit the young age of the participants?). Why did bidialectal children perform a lot better than bilingual children on the vocabulary test? I'm interested to know the extent to which the variation in the results in vocabulary/grammar accuracy between bidialectals and bilinguals is linked to how closely related the second input dialect/language is to Dutch? For example, most of the bilingual children had language backgrounds that were not closely related to Dutch (e.g. Moroccan Arabic). It would be interesting to see a comparison with a closely related bilingual language pair (e.g. Dutch-German) When studying extra and intra linguistic factors together, how do the authors actually weight the contribution of the different factors to account for how they interact with each other?